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Any Camera Recommendations for a Beginner Photography Student?
As a beginner photography student we're required to have a 35mm Or a 120 equipped with manual controls with normal 55 mm lens. Being completely new to this area & on an extremely tight budget, I'm completely clueless as to what camera would be best for a beginner for me all the while being decently priced. Also, where would I be able to find a camera? I browsed at 2 different photography shops recommended by my instructor & found a Nikon N6006 for $160, EOS Rebel G for $155, Cannon T70 for $150, & a EOS Rebel T2 for $165; all used & comes with lens (I wasn't sure what sort of lens). Are these cameras appropriate for the type required for my class (yes, I am THAT clueless when I hardly understand the camera descriptions)? Or what else would you recommend? & can anyone tell me what the terms "DSLR" & "SLR" mean?
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- i find canon cameras very easy to use, although i havnt had much luck with them as far as durability goes...have gone thru 3 digital cameras in the past few years
- Well i dont have much idea about SLR but i can tell you DSLR is like SLR but D is stand for Digital. So DSLR is a Digital SLR.... well hope this help a little... ps if you looking for DSLR is suggest canon 350D it is old version but if you are on small budget. It is quite a burgain.
- Both Nikon and Canon cameras will be good for learning photography and the lenses you wll have with either brand will be usable with a DSLR later if you decide to go digital. Those cameras are only a few dollars different, so all you have to do is hold each one and see which is the easiest for you to hold and use. SLR is in reference to a 35mm SLR (Single Lens Reflex) and DSLR refers to a Digital Single Lens Reflex. You will need a skylight or UV filter to protect the front element of your lens.
- DSLR stands for Digital SLR. It is the same as an old SLR camera, but it uses a sensor instead of film. You say you need a 35mm or 120 camera, so a DSLR will not do you any good. As for a film SLR, stick to the known companies, such as Nikon, Minolta, Canon, and Pentax. The Nikon N6006 you mentioned is a great camera overall. Other Nikon's would be, well, anything. I would also suggest the N8008s, FM2, N2020, and the N90.The Rebel G is as well. The Canon T70 is a great compact camera, and is great to use. The Canon T2 is not so good, since it's build quality is a major issue; was not made with quality as an attribute. As for lenses, get a nice 50mm f1.8. These are cheap, reliable, and will suit your needs since it is the same as what our eye sees. Of course for different work, you might need a telephoto, macro, or wide angle lens. A UV filter is not necessary, but if you get one, remove it before you take the image. If you are worried about protecting your lens, just use the lens cap. This is why they were invented. If you want something else, buy a lens hood. They work just as well, and also keep flare ups to a minimum.
- First decide which brand Canon or Nikon? You won't want to buy lenses then find out you would rather have had the other brand. I have heard the Canon Rebel is awesome. SLR stands for single-lens reflex camera -the camera has a mirror and pentaprism that lets you see through the taking lens to focus the scene and compose it exactly. DSLR stands for single-lens reflex camera (Digital). The 55mm is a normal focal length lens, it is most commonly used for portrait photography. Good luck with your class. .
- It appears that everyone answering questions in photography thinks that the only good cameras manufactured are made by Nikon or Canon. Thinking that way is wrong. There were an abundance of good cameras that you can draw from that will be less expensive than the Nikons and Canons and perform either as good as or better than both of them. If you can get a screw mount Pentax or a Bayonette mount Pentax, you get an excellent camera. Very good optics if you get Pentax lenses. Among the screw mounts are the Spotmatics, manufacturing began in 1966 or 67, up to the K1000. I would not get anything newer thant he K1000 because they are a bit more difficult to work with if you are new to the game since the metering is shown in LEDs and is not done by setting the f stops on the lens. The ME, ME Super and the rest of that type are excellent camera also, but they are not as manual as the older ones. A manual camera is the best to start with so that you can understand the way that photography works. On the screwmount, many primary manufacturers made lenses, including Yashica. And there are no flies on the older manual 35mm Yashicas at all. Pentax is not the only other good one, The Olympus OM1, OM2 and a few other OM models are incredibly good and with excellent optics. I started with a Pentax older than the Spotmatic, the SV Asahi Pentax and used that for many years. I now have three OM1s and one OM2 and use them daily and I can assure you that no one can tell my pictures are made with those and not Canon or Nikon. There are more lenses available than you would ever need. The Olympus bodies in the OM styles are a bit smaller than the bodies of any other of the cameras making them easy to hold. I would stay away from the OM10, it has too much plastic in it. As I said, the Yashicas were excellent - made well and mechanically very good. Another brand that you can look at are the Minolta SRT101 and 102. Old, but built like an anvil and their lenses are incredible. As for a 120 (or a camera that will shoot 120 or 220), there were many made. Some of them are very cheaply made, others are excellent. Any of the Yashica 120 cameras are very good. The most popular might be the Yashicamat 124, but I had an old Yashica EM, only made during 64-67 that was out of sight. If you want to spring for something more expensive, Rollei, Zeiss, and several other European brands come to mind. The basical problem with a 120 is that most of them did not have interchangable lenses, but there were lenses that you could screw into the main lens that would give you a wide angle and a telephoto. The objective lens on the 120/220 camera should be anywhere from 75mm to 85mm, usually they are 80mm. Insofar as Yashica is concerned, I have a very good friend who is a camera repairman in the US and was, up till Yashica closed their US repair centers, the main man in Yashica service in the US. When they closed, he got all of the extra parts and can fix them better than anyone in the US. He had prior worked on the Yashica 124 assembly line in Nagano Japan. You can buy camera from him by going to www.markhama.com and be assured that it is in virtually new shape. He repaired the shutter in the old EM that I bought at a garage sale and did it in 20 minutes. Then you get to the masterwork in 120/220 cameras, the Mamiyas. There are several models available on the used market. These are professional cameras and the Mamiya 330 has shot more weddings than any other camera ever made - but then it was an active model (through variations) from the 50s to the mid 1990s. It is a virtual brick, probably the only camera that you would beat someone senseless with and take good photographs of it while you are doing it. Before I go any further, let me explain the difference between 120 and 220. The film size is the same. The main difference is that 120 gives you 10 shots, the 220 gives you 20. Cameras that take both will have a pressure plate on the inside of the back that will adjust for the differences in the film. The differences in the film are simple, 120 is paper backed and 220 is not. That way they can be more film in the camera. So what you are doing with the pressure plate adjustment is compensating for the thickness of the film. The Mamiya models, and I would suggest any of the 330 models, take interchangable lenses. The main lens is an 80mm, but they have 55mm, 65mm, 105mm, 135, 180mm and 250mm lenses available. I will tell you only this: since this is a professional camera, the lenses are not necessarily cheap even though the camera system has not been made since the mid 90s. You could probably do with just the 80. The mamiya is a totally manual camera. My 330 had no light meter, needed no batteries, etc. It had no place to put a battery. The Canons and the Nikons are great cameras, but even with some age on them, they are priced above their competitors and for no other reason that some people think they are better. They are not. I am not that familiar with Nikon, never owned one. As for the Canons, and the teachers like a couple of models best, I would recommend the A1 or the AE1 - they are bricks also. The only thing that I did not like about those models, and I have owned both, is that they NEED to have a good battery in them or they are useless. The OM1, for instance, has only a battery for the light meter and if that dies on you, just do what your teacher tells you to, you will have the proper guidelines for doing your own settings without a light meter. Now someone will spike me with a thumbs down just for mentioning products other than Canon or Nikon. Trust me, they are not any better than any of the rest. I have only been into photography for 45 years and I have shot everything you can name - except a Nikon.
- The three canons are similar enough, that its probably the lens that is more important. If anything comes with a lens OTHER than the Canon 18-55, get it, because it would be an upgrade. There is nothing wrong with buying used, if it works. Since you are required to have a film camera, dont buy a digital yet. You would be wise to wait until you know the things you are about to learn in this class. Good luck!
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