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For a beginner photographer, which one is a good camera and lens to start with? not too expensive but good?

I am VERY interested in learning photography and I'd like to start by buying a nice camera. I am between Nikon D80 or a Canon Rebel XSi 12.2MP 3.0" that comes with a 18-55mm IS & 75-300mm Lens. Any recommendations or advice please???

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1. Costco usually has that Canon kit for a good price. The camera is great, the lenses are basic, but adequate. In time, you'll learn to yearn for the best possible lenses, so don't buy any other lenses for a while, learn a lot first. Also add to your price a large memory card, and tripod, and possibly an external flash. You might also want a few filters (at least a circular polarizer), a spare battery, sensor cleaning gear and a camera bag. Owning a DSLR isn't cheap, at least not until you have all your gear. Once you have your camera, make sure to attend a class, read tons of books and read/watch tutorials so you can make the most out of your lovely new toys. Enjoy!
2. My advice is to watch the used market. There are going to be a number of D80s and D40s sold pretty soon as people upgrade to the D90. You should be able to get this equipment at a significant discount and most of it will be practically unused. Make sure you take ample opportunity to inspect it. Its the same principle as buying new vs used car. Let the other guy pay the premium for driving off the lot.
3. If you are really on a budget and want the best quality for the money, check out the P&S Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ28 [with a Leica lense] which has more features than most pro DSLRs that require auxiliary lenses not even equal to the single initial full-range lense that comes with the FZ28. It is reviewed at: http://www.steves-digicams.com/2008_reviews/panasonic_fz28.html It just came out on November 4, 2008. It's an all-in-one 10.1 megapixel digital camera which includes (i) built-in image stabilization; (ii) HDTV quality video [Quicktime]; (iii) a 18x zoom [27 - 486 mm (35mm equiv.)] "Leica" lense for nature photography; (iv) up to 0.39 inch macro option; (v) up to 6400 ASA; (vi) takes up to 380 pictures per 120 min. battery charge; (vii) has a "burst speed" of 13 fps; and sells new for $315 at amazon.com. Here's an actual handheld picture of the moon: http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/bf/1b/a83ac060ada0881604bad110.L.jpg Good luck!